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The Wisdom of Discomfort - 25 Years at the Forefront of the L&D Revolution with Dr. Nigel Paine - ENG

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"If you've run a leadership programme and two weeks later nothing has changed, that programme has failed. It wasn't leadership development. It was entertainment."


Dr. Nigel Paine has spent 25 years taking L&D apart like a clock to see what actually makes it tick — and he keeps arriving at the same uncomfortable conclusion: most of our fixes treat the symptom, not the system.

That's what I'm talking about in this episode of GOOD MORNING L&D.

My guest: 🌀 Dr. Nigel Paine – author, former Head of People Development at the BBC, co-host of Learning Now TV

Nigel is a systems thinker to the core, someone who refuses the quick fix and asks the hard question instead of selling the next five-step framework. One of the sharpest, most influential voices in international L&D: hands-on, not theoretical.

What we talk about:

– Why there is no blueprint — and why real learning only starts in context and in discomfort

– The "organisational brain": why collective intelligence comes from the connections between people, not from brilliant individual heads

– How individual KPIs and bonuses quietly sabotage the very collaboration we say we want to build

– The honest two-week test for any leadership programme — and what an Antarctic expedition reveals about it – From course catalogue to "architect of work": the role of L&D in the age of agentic AI


Nigel Paine's books: https://www.nigelpaine.com/writing/

Nigel on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nigelpaine/


Host: Moritz Ettl – Founder, Forever Day One https://www.linkedin.com/in/moritzettl/


More from GOOD MORNING L&D: Website: https://foreverday.one/masterclasses/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@4ed1-

Distribution: Forever Day One Editing and production: Tanja Kamp


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