In this conversation with Rob Hopkins, founder of the Transition movement, we explore what twenty years of community-led change can teach us about co-creating the Third Attractor.Rob shares how Transition began in the small town of Totnes and grew into an international movement of communities experimenting with local food, energy, housing, currencies and new ways of working together. At its heart is a simple question: what can we actually do, with the people and resources around us, in the place where we live?But creating a different future requires more than practical projects. It also requires imagination. Rob believes our collective imagination has weakened at exactly the moment when we most need the capacity to envision something radically different. We speak about rebuilding that imaginative muscle, making the future tangible enough to long for, and creating thousands of local experiments that begin to show us what another world could look like.A hopeful and very practical conversation about community, agency, imagination and learning how to fall in love with the future.
Rob Hopkins is the co-founder of Transition Network and of Transition Town Totnes, and author of several books including ‘The Transition Handbook‘ and most recently, ‘How to Fall in Love with the Future: a time traveller’s guide to changing the world’. He is an Ashoka Fellow, has spoken at TED Global and at several TEDx events, and appeared in the 2015 French film phenomenon ‘Demain’. He holds a PhD from the University of Plymouth as well as 2 Honoris Causas, and hosted 100 episodes of his podcast ‘From What If to What Next’. In November 2022 he was made an Honorary Citizen of Liège in Belgium. His collaborative music project with artist Mr Kit, ‘Field Recordings from the Future‘ is now available, and is being developed as a live show which will tour in 2026. Rob stopped flying in 2006. In his spare time, he draws and makes drypoint etchings. His website is https://www.robhopkins.net/Daniela Bomatter is a Swiss-born evolutionary practitioner, facilitator, and former technology executive whose life bridges the worlds of systems transformation, spiritual awakening, and human development. After a successful career in software engineering and leadership, including serving as CEO of SwissEnergy at the Swiss Federal Office of Energy, she left public life in 2016 to dedicate herself fully to the path of spiritual realization and conscious evolution. For seventeen years, she studied and worked closely with spiritual teacher Andrew Cohen, becoming a senior practitioner and teacher of Evolutionary Enlightenment.Daniela is the co-founder of Manifest Nirvana (https://www.manifest-nirvana.com) and lives in Tiruvannamalai, South India, where she leads retreats, online programs, and global dialogues exploring the intersection of awakening, culture, and collective transformation. She is the creator of the “Co-Creating the Third Attractor” Podcast (https://3da.manifest-nirvana.com ) , a integral inquiry into the future of human civilization, and the author of The Viratya Myth Begins (https://www.viratya.com). Through her writing, teaching, and conversations, Daniela invites people to discover a way of being that embraces both timeless presence and evolutionary becoming, holding the paradoxes of our age with depth, responsibility, and wonder.
