If your learning team is still seen as a cost center, this episode will change how you show up.
Jacob sits down with Andrew Scivally, CEO of ELB Learning, to explore why L&D’s credibility is suffering—and what it takes to reposition the function as a performance-driven strategic partner.
Andrew has worked with Fortune 100s, led L&D at JPMorgan Chase and Zion’s Bank, and now helps learning teams stop building “fluff” and start driving results.
In this episode, you’ll learn:
Why traditional L&D metrics like completion rates and smile sheets are killing your team’s influence
The language shift needed to earn a seat at the table with executives
How to position L&D as a revenue generator, not just a training team
What it looks like to build onboarding experiences that match your external brand promise
How marketing principles can help you sell the value of learning internally
Why learning professionals need to become business professionals with an expertise in human capital transformation
The connection between needs assessment, strategic planning, and C-suite credibility that ELB is building next to support the future of AI-powered, performance-focused learning
💡 “If you want to be seen as strategic, stop calling yourself a learning team. Call yourself a performance team. That’s what the business actually cares about.”
This is a bold, practical, and energizing conversation for any L&D leader ready to step up and be seen as essential to business growth.
🎧 Listen now and get ready to transform how you lead learning:
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