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How She Built a Podcast for a Travel Niche Nobody Was Serving —Mikkel Woodruff | Ep 167

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Mikkel went looking for a podcast about small ship cruising and discovered something surprising: the show she wanted to listen to didn’t exist.

So she and her husband created it.

Small Ship Cruise Talk focuses specifically on cruises with 1,000 passengers or fewer—and often ships carrying fewer than 200 people. Built on years of experience as travel writers and content creators, the podcast has become another way for Mikkel and her husband to educate travelers, share their experiences, and introduce more people to a type of cruising many don’t even realize exists.


In this episode of My Podcast Story, Mikkel shares why they waited several years before finally starting the podcast, what producing a weekly video and audio show actually looks like behind the scenes, why batching isn’t always as easy as people make it sound, and how AI tools have made podcast production far less overwhelming.


We also talk about building in an extremely specific niche, growing the podcast through an existing audience, turning episodes into a larger content ecosystem, securing their first sponsor as a relatively new show, and why sometimes you have to start moving before you can figure out where to course-correct.


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Connect with Mikkel


Website: https://smallshipcruisetalk.com


Travel Website: https://sometimessailing.com


Instagram & Threads: @sometimessailing


YouTube: @sometimes-sailing


Podcast: Small Ship Cruise Talk


Chapters


00:00 Creating the Podcast She Couldn't Find

00:44 Meet Mikkel

01:04 What Small Ship Cruise Talk Is About

01:18 Why Such a Specific Podcast Niche Works

01:52 How They Chose the Podcast Name

02:36 Building on an Existing Travel Audience

04:16 Why Their First Attempt at Podcasting Didn't Happen

04:34 Why 2021 Wasn't the Right Time

05:03 Waiting Until the Business and Technology Were Ready

06:15 Why Podcasting Finally Became Less Overwhelming

06:38 The Difference Between Sometimes Sailing and Small Ship Cruise Talk

07:11 Launching the Podcast in March 2025

08:13 Why So Many Podcasts Struggle With Consistency

11:22 Publishing One Podcast Episode Every Week

12:34 The Biggest Challenge in the First Six Months

12:52 The Never-Ending Podcast Production Flywheel

14:18 Why Batching Episodes Isn't Always Easy

16:24 How They Initially Promoted the Podcast

17:14 Growing Through Email and Social Media

18:23 Why Mikkel Loves Small Ship Cruising

19:10 Helping Travelers Discover a Different Kind of Cruise

20:45 Why the Small Ship Cruise Market Is Growing

21:42 The Dream of Having a Podcast Production Team

23:26 Why You Have to Start Before You Can Course-Correct

25:13 The AI Tools Behind the Podcast

25:41 Using Buzzsprout to Publish Everywhere

27:04 Using AI for Titles, Descriptions, and Thumbnail Ideas

28:10 Google Docs and Sheets for Podcast Organization

29:03 Using Canva for Podcast Graphics

29:53 Creating Podcast Clips With Riverside

33:26 Podcasting Tools Mikkel Wants to Explore

33:39 Learning From Podcasting Communities

34:24 How Adobe Enhance Saved a Bad Recording

35:58 More Tools Behind the Production Workflow

36:09 Using PodMatch as a Podcast Guest

38:25 Guesting on Other Podcasts to Expand Their Reach

40:35 How the Podcast Fits Into the Travel Business

41:01 Landing Their First Podcast Sponsor

41:42 Why You Don't Need 10,000 Downloads to Get Sponsored

41:51 How Their First Sponsorship Happened

42:49 Growing the Podcast on YouTube

43:35 Applying to Speak About Podcast Sponsorship

45:22 What's Next for Small Ship Cruise Talk

45:32 Expanding Successful Podcast Topics Into Video

46:31 Integrating Podcast Episodes More Deeply With the Website

47:43 Finding More Sponsors and Growing the Show

48:09 Where to Find Small Ship Cruise Talk

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