Turnover was sitting at 60% year after year, and Dr. Manny Rodriguez says the first question nobody was asking wasn’t “how do we fix this,” it was “why do we assume we already know why people are leaving?”
You’ve probably felt this tension yourself: exit interviews that never quite tell you the truth, and a gut sense that pay alone can’t be the whole story. Manny is a behavior scientist and organizational performance consultant who’s spent decades working inside organizations to figure out exactly that. In this conversation, he walks through what actually turned a 60% turnover rate into 20% — without a single change to pay or bonus structure.
He also shares something heavier: a story from outside human services about what happens when an organization’s stated priorities and its actual attention quietly drift apart, and why that gap matters just as much in a group home as it does on a factory floor.
If you’ve ever suspected there’s a real answer buried under your own turnover numbers, this one’s for you.
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TIMESTAMPS
00:00 – The alarm nobody wants to hear 01:04 – The retention myth this episode debunks 02:37 – What pattern are most leaders missing? 05:24 – The accidental start to a 26-year career 10:00 – Meet the godfather of organizational behavior management 14:32 – A story that makes it all tangible 15:01 – The retention problem everyone thought they understood 16:16 – Why exit interviews rarely tell you the truth 19:19 – The stay interviews that revealed what was really happening 21:21 – The turnaround: from 60% to 20% 24:54 – What a chemical company taught him about priorities 30:30 – The alarm that changed everything 32:40 – What this means for rapidly growing organizations 35:36 – This week's action move
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