I grew up thinking if I did everything right, negotiated hard enough, leaned in enough, the outcome would eventually match the effort. Y'all, that was a big old fat lie. Stefanie O'Connell spent years digging into the research for her new book, The Ambition Penalty, and the data is downright shocking. We get into girlboss culture and tradwife culture, and why they're actually selling the same lie in different outfits. We talk about what happens to women who out earn their male partners, and I promise, you're going to be picking your jaw up off the floor. Fair warning, there's some rage in this one. Mine included.
Notable timestamps:
01:55 – Stefanie explains the title and the reckoning behind the book
06:07 – The truth about whether women actually negotiate less than men
10:29 – Was Lean In a net positive or a net negative
15:55 – Girlboss and tradwife culture are selling the exact same lie
20:03 – Midroll
26:34 – The data on breadwinning moms and abuse in the home
36:43 – Why men only read 20% of bestselling books by women
45:03 – Where to actually start when the problem feels too big
50:10 – Why Stefanie refuses to buy into mom guilt
56:27 – What utopia actually looks like, ten years out
Stefanie's links:
The Ambition Penalty (book):https://amzn.to/4gbQlSY
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