Matt Grace grew up with a chef, a housekeeper, and a father who paid for his first prostitute, and by 29 he'd spent a hundred and fifty thousand dollars on sex workers and burned through every drug you can name. Matt spent his career as an interventionist for some of the wealthiest addicts in the country and just released his book, God Doesn't Relapse. We get into the therapist who diagnosed him with an Oedipus complex at nine, the house that became the neighborhood's drug den, the mother who finally changed the locks on him, and a moment where Matt and I go head to head over what actually counts as an addiction. This one's unflinching and important.

Notable timestamps:

  • 02:06 "Holy fuck" is exactly the right way to open this one
  • 04:11 Expelled from two preschools, flagged as a future sociopath at six
  • 06:31 The therapist who diagnosed a nine-year-old's Oedipus complex and let him attack him for years
  • 08:13 The Bloomfield Hills mansion and the house that became a teenage drug den
  • 15:35 His father pays for his first prostitute, leading to $150K spent on sex workers
  • 26:27 Suicidal with a rifle, and choosing God over a bullet
  • 28:24 His mother's ultimatum: "Get out, I'm changing the locks"
  • 41:35 "That's not recovery, it's weakness": Matt on being triggered
  • 44:44 Matt and Allison clash over body dysmorphia versus addiction
  • 51:02 The dream car he bought after his father died, and sold eight months later

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