In this episode, we dig into the online controversy surrounding the Queer Collective Podcast and its hosts, Emily and Karbon, who are currently facing accusations of lesbophobia, biphobia, and transphobia. We talk about the claims they’ve made that political lesbianism is the root of biphobia against bisexual women, lesbian insecurity about bisexual women is “male-centered,” sexual identity can be a choice, lesbians can occasionally have sex with men, the “bi-cycle” is representative of bisexual experience, and trans women are “socialized as men.”
We also talk about the contradiction between strict definitions of “lesbian” and including trans men in lesbianism, the historical invention of deviant sexual identity, our own experiences with political lesbianism and queerness, our perspectives on the apology Emily and Karbon have made (and on apologies in general), our rejection of identity policing and punitive approaches to conflict in the queer community, the importance of being able to openly explore ideas even if they don’t positively represent a marginalized group, and so much more.
What starts as analysis of someone else's controversy also turns into something more personal. We go on tangents in which we discuss conflicts from several years ago, learn new information about each other’s experience of bisexuality, and talk about the fear that saying the "wrong" thing online could cost us our friendship.
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