Why Is David Shrigley More Successful Than Richard? On this week’s episode, the iconic artist talks to Richard about his new book Creative Writing (out at the end of September), creating art for Trafalgar Square's fourth plinth, being copied, not being able to remember what he's done, having his work rejected by Private Eye, the joy of creating and how he's never had a proper job. And as a bonus, he gives Richard a new tattoo.

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