When Sam Clark moved to Sri Lanka in 2004 to start a travel company, he didn't expect to spend his first year running a disaster relief operation instead. The Boxing Day tsunami hit weeks after he arrived — and what followed became the unlikely training ground for everything he knows about leadership.
In this conversation, Sam takes us inside the moments that actually shaped him: the motorbike rescue missions, the £150,000 charity that emerged almost by accident, and the years of crisis that followed — the 2019 Easter bombings, a pandemic that made it illegal to sell holidays, and the long, grinding rebuild that came after.
He talks candidly about the Stockdale Paradox, the difference between optimism and denial, and why meditation — found in the strange stillness of lockdown — changed not just how he runs his business, but how he parents. He shares the practical anatomy of a crisis management plan, the mantra that got his team through COVID, and the moment a billionaire's unpaid bar bill saved the company.
This is a conversation about what it really means to be entrusted with leadership — and what holds when everything else doesn't.
In this episode:
The tsunami that turned a travel startup into a disaster relief charity
Why "we" mattered more than "I" in Sri Lanka's darkest moment
The Stockdale Paradox — and the rats-in-a-bucket experiment that proves it
Building (and using) a real crisis management plan
How grief and lockdown led Sam to meditation — and to better parenting
The Brazilian billionaires, the private island, and the $300,000 bar bill
Churchill vs. Attlee: the wartime leader and the peacetime leader
What success actually looks like when it isn't about the money
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