Amelia Wattenberger spent eight years as a front-end developer before the title on her business card turned into "designer" — she's been at GitHub, now she's building Intent.
This conversation covers why developers are mourning their old flow state, the eras of AI coding tools from Copilot to CLI to the app era, why the spec is becoming the new source of truth, and what Amelia means when she says the work is shifting from implementation to intention.
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CHAPTERS: 0:00 — The moment the IDE stopped making sense 2:16 — The ladder of abstraction, and a career moving up and down it 7:35 — Where the abstraction stops: you can't automate eating ice cream 10:29 — Developers are mourning their flow state 16:02 — Eras of AI coding tools: Copilot → CLI → the app 22:43 — Living specs vs. static PRDs 29:38 — Inside Intent: workspaces as desks you pick up and put down 39:02 — Plan, implement, review — and where the medium goes next 42:46 — Advice for people too employed to pathfind 44:33 — Outro: where purpose lives when agents do the rest
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