Lise is in the Lake District on a walking weekend with Ramble Worldwide, Hassness House and Ageism Is Never In Style. She's joined by walk leader Julia Williams for an evening amble to Buttermere, the evening before the walking properly starts.
It's nearly 9:30 at night. The sun has just slipped behind the hills, and Lise and Julia are walking down to the lake, talking about what walking does for people.
Julia has been leading walks for Ramble Worldwide for 12 years, entirely as a volunteer. She's taken groups to New Zealand, the Alps, Costa Rica, Madeira, the Tour du Mont Blanc and the Camino. She really knows what it means when someone says a walk changed their life.
And Lise shares her own walking story: travelling the world for a year with her three children and walking the final stretch of the Camino with no sleeping bags, no advance bookings, and nothing to think about but the next step.
Join Lise and discover...
Why Ramble Worldwide is a not-for-profit and what that means for the walking community
How Julia went from a career in the real world to leading groups across six continents as a volunteer
The unexpected moments that remind you why getting people outdoors really matters
Why a well-organised walk is harder than it looks
Lise's family Camino: three kids, no plan and walking home from Japan via northern Spain
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