Oliver Fuss (FoodFunder) sits down with Michael "Tony" Grinston — 16th Sergeant Major of the Army (2019–2023) and CEO of Army Emergency Relief — for Episode 1 of Dual Use: Agri-Food × Army.
The U.S. Army spends billions each year on food, materials, and biotech, yet most agri-food startups have no clear path in. This conversation opens that gap: what the Army actually needs from feeding and readiness, how change gets funded and scaled, and how founders can engage without wasting cycles on the wrong doors.
Topics include:
• Why fuel (not just fitness) is the missing readiness piece — and how DFAC modernization became a signal of how far feeding ops had to move
• Campus-style dining as a live garrison model (choice, quality, off-DFAC operators)
• How Army initiatives actually scale: champion + POM budget + accountable leadership
• What soldiers adopt in the field: taste first, then performance, then emergency rations — and why weight/cube matter in contested logistics
• Practical founder engagement: AUSA/LANPAC and logistics/food shows, innovation labs on large posts, and bringing real problem data
Guest: Michael "Tony" Grinston — 16th SMA; CEO, Army Emergency Relief (from Jan 2024); first former NCO to lead AER. Signature feeding/readiness pushes include campus-style dining, DFAC modernization, Go for Green, and Holistic Health & Fitness (H2F).
Host: Oliver · FoodFunder
Series: Dual Use — Agri-Food × Army
Distribution: Food Tech Weekly / Investment Climate Podcast
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