In this conversation, Rachael sits down with Dra. Rocío Rosales Meza, a Mexicana/Chicana seer, medicine woman in the Q'ero Inca lineage, and former Counseling Psychology PhD and professor whose life took a profound turn from academia to ancestral healing.

She shares the life-altering moment that shifted her from a tenured academic career into ancestral medicine, and how chronic illness, loss, and surrender became the doorway to her true purpose. 

What unfolds in this episode is not just a story of personal transformation, but a powerful reflection on the systems we are taught to trust, and the cost of staying disconnected from our bodies, our spirit, and the Earth.

If you are navigating your own awakening, questioning the systems you were taught to trust, or feeling the pull toward something deeper this conversation will stay with you.

In this episode, we explore:

🕊️ The breaking point that led Doctora Rocío from academia to ancestral medicine
🕊️ What "decolonial shadow work" actually looks like in daily life
🕊️ The concept of colonial collusion and how it shapes modern living
🕊️ Reclaiming ancestral wisdom while living in a modern world
🕊️ The difference between transactional healing and relational, embodied practice

LINKS

Dra. Rocio Rosales Meza's Instagram

Dra. Rocio Rosales Meza's Website

Dra. Rocio Rosales Meza's Healer's Journey

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