You've heard people say, "Good things come to those who wait." Most of us absorbed that lesson somewhere along the way — save the good stuff, delay the pleasure, wait until you've earned it. But my guest today says that idea backfires.

My guest is Ian Bogost, a contributing writer at The Atlantic and a professor at Washington University in St. Louis. His new book is The Small Stuff.

Some of the things we discuss are:

The three different types of contentment — and why we tend to overlook the most available one

What the famous marshmallow test actually got wrong about delayed gratification

Why saving the perfume, the outfit, or the "good china" for a special occasion might be backfiring

The one-step trick to noticing small pleasures without having to add anything new to your routine

Why gratification isn't the same as mindfulness — and why Ian has issues with how mindfulness gets sold to us

How modern life has quietly stripped away small sensory pleasures (Ian calls it "dematerialization")

Why you don't have to choose between being present and taking a picture — you can do both

How stacking tiny moments of gratification can build a buffer that makes hard days hurt less

The Therapist's Take: My top three strategies for finding more small pleasures starting today

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