In this episode, Pastor Lyle sits down with his friend Pastor Rich Wilkerson Jr. — founder and lead pastor of VOUS Church in Miami.
This is not a conversation about strategy or success — but about faithfulness, growth, and what it looks like to keep dreaming with God as you take on mileage over the years. Rich opens up about the journey of planting VOUS, the lessons only time and trial can teach, and why the most important thing a leader can do is look back before moving forward.
Together, they explore questions every leader and believer needs to sit with:
• What is prophetic hindsight — and why does every leader need to practice it?
• How do you keep dreaming bigger the longer you've been doing this?
• What does it mean to stop crying the same tears you cried last year?
• How do you build a church culture that carries God's fingerprints?
• What does it look like to brand what people demand and lean fully into your strengths?
This episode is honest, warm, and full of the kind of pastoral wisdom that only comes from years of showing up. Our hope is that it gives you fresh eyes for your past — and fresh faith for your future.
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You can connect with Pastor Lyle on Instagram: @lylebphillips
