Your CRM is collecting all that customer data...but is it actually making your emails better? 


In this episode of Email After Hours, Guy Hanson and Danielle Gallant sit down with Lisa Wester, Senior Manager of Global Marketing Automation at Copeland, to explore why even the most sophisticated email programs are only as good as the customer data behind them.


Lisa explains how better data leads to better personalization, how every email can make your CRM smarter, and how AI is helping marketers build richer customer profiles without adding complexity.


If your email personalization strategy feels stuck despite having plenty of data, this episode will help you break the cycle.


What you'll learn:

  • How standardized data enables scalable personalization across global teams and multiple channels
  • How to improve data quality during platform migrations without sacrificing engagement
  • Why outcome-based metrics matter more than inflated opens in an AI and bot-driven world
  • How AI and customer data platforms can power smarter segmentation, personalization, and sales enablement


…and more!


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About Lisa Wester


Lisa Wester is Senior Manager of Global Marketing Automation at Copeland, where she leads global email marketing, customer engagement, and lifecycle automation initiatives. A three-time Salesforce-certified marketing leader, Lisa specializes in building scalable, data-driven customer experiences that connect CRM strategy, marketing automation, and personalization. With extensive experience managing complex global marketing operations, she helps organizations transform customer data into actionable insights that drive stronger engagement, better sales alignment, and long-term customer relationships. 

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Episode Highlights
  • [00:03:39] Turning a platform migration into a data reset 
  • [00:08:30] Why personalization is only as good as your data
  • [00:11:32] Standardizing a complex global email program
  • [00:17:25] Why the welcome journey matters so much
  • [00:20:07] Making messy customer data actually useful
  • [00:22:51] Measuring real engagement beyond opens and clicks
  • [00:28:37] Building the future of CRM-powered customer experiences 

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