Today's guest is the endlessly wise Pat Kirch - drummer and founding member of The Maine, and the brains behind some of the smartest fan-community moves in modern music.

We get into all sorts of value on this show - building a fan base that actually cares, the truth about the 1000 true fans theory, plus why the band edited every music video on their latest album two days before release...

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Episode Features:

  • Why 50 people buying tickets and 15 of them grabbing a t-shirt is a proper career starting point, not a failure
  • How the famous "1,000 true fans" essay plays out in real life, 20 years into a band's career
  • Why trying to reach everybody means connecting with nobody - and what going deep with a small fan base actually looks like
  • How MySpace messages and post-show dinners with fans grew into 8123, a community with its own festival and tattoos
  • Why fans connect harder when they get to watch you evolve, and why looking a bit DIY early on works in your favour
  • How building each album into its own era, colours and all, helps fans tie your music to chapters of their own lives
  • Why every music video from the new album was edited two days before it came out, and why that's the whole point
  • The Tour Next Door - why the band's tenth album tour skips the big cities and plays the towns next door instead
  • What playing free shows in mall car parks did as a thank you for ten years of fan support
  • Why nothing in your career is as make or break as it feels in the moment

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