On this episode of the Change It Podcast, Eloise, founder of Change It Talent, the leading change recruitment agency, sits down with Dr Dani Chesson, author of Unstuckified, host of the Design Thinker Podcast, and a transformation practitioner who started her career as a graphic designer.
Dani spent her early career inside banking transformation, watching change fail and seeing it through a designer's eyes. That led to a PhD, years of testing ideas with real clients, and one question: what if change management is actually a design problem?
Her research found organisations everywhere caught in the same perfect storm. Our brains haven't evolved at the pace of technology. Our organisations are still built like factories. And the world is now both VUCA and BANI. In this conversation, she explains how to get unstuck.
In this episode we cover:
The three forces that keep organisations "stuckified", and why there's no single root cause
Why a plan makes our brains feel in control, and why that's an illusion
How to give regulators the plan they need while designing for real human behaviour
Dani's four moves: a courageous vision, tiny steps that build momentum, alleviating pain, and activating learning inside the work
"Survival adoption", and why AI is an identity threat leaders need to talk about
How to use AI as a thought partner by getting it to play your stakeholders
If you're a change practitioner who suspects your beloved frameworks are starting to creak, this conversation offers a fresh, practical and very human lens.
Links: www.changeittalent.com Unstuckified by Dr Dani Chesson: https://www.unstuckifyed.com/ Dani on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danichessonphd/ The Design Thinker Podcast: https://www.buzzsprout.com/2128420
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