In this episode of the HR Insights podcast, Stuart Elliott is joined once again by Sasha Scott, Founder and CEO of Inclusive Group, to explore how the conversation around diversity, equity and inclusion is changing and what that means for organisations today.
Drawing on 25 years working in the inclusion space, Sasha reflects on the significant recalibration taking place across organisations. As traditional DEI language becomes increasingly challenged, the conversation is shifting towards inclusion, culture, conduct, fairness and how people actually experience the workplace. Stuart and Sasha discuss why this is becoming less of a standalone people issue and increasingly one that intersects with leadership, compliance, risk and wider business performance.
The conversation also explores what genuinely changes behaviour within organisations, the importance of leaders modelling expected standards and the challenges of creating inclusive cultures across different generations, locations and ways of working. From AI and workplace governance to intergenerational inclusion, difficult conversations and the return to the office, the episode considers what organisations should be thinking about as they prepare for 2027.
Key timestamps
00:00 Introduction and guest background
02:43 The history of Inclusive Group and its pioneering role
04:51 Impact of compliance-led training in financial and legal sectors
06:47 Regulatory changes and their influence on diversity initiatives
10:32 Shift from DEI language to a focus on inclusion and culture
12:40 Current hot topics: fairness, treatment, and organisational culture
14:36 AI risks, governance, and ethical considerations
16:45 Engagement, remote work, and the importance of in-person interactions
20:37 Regulatory expectations and the future of organisational behaviour
24:47 Medical analogy for cultural audits and deep listening
28:44 Effective communication, respect, and leadership style
30:41 Intergenerational inclusion and overcoming stereotypes
34:39 Technology, AI, and the future of work and inclusion
36:47 Preparing for regulatory changes in 2027 and beyond
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