Why Chasing the Perfect Sleep Score Is Keeping You Awake with Mollie Eastman l How Mindset, ACT, and Intentional Wearables Can Get You the Best Night of Sleep - Renee Belz & Lauren Sambataro | Lyssna här

Are your sleep trackers helping you sleep better? Or making you more anxious about your sleep? In this episode, we welcome back sleep expert Mollie Eastman, founder of Sleep Is A Skill, to explore how chasing the perfect sleep score can actually undermine restorative sleep, while sharing practical strategies for improving sleep through mindset shifts, Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT), and smart use of wearable data. Mollie also discusses overcoming the "First Night Effect" while traveling, when to consider at-home sleep studies, and the foundational tests that matter most before investing in advanced biohacks. Finally, she shares her personal experience with psychedelic-assisted therapy at Beckley Retreats, revealing how addressing suppressed emotions and unresolved stress transformed both her sleep and overall well-being.

Mollie Eastman is the creator of Sleep Is A Skill and the host of The Sleep Is A Skill Podcast. Sleep Is A Skill is a company that optimizes people’s sleep through a unique blend of technology, accountability, and behavioral change. After navigating insomnia while traveling internationally, she created what she couldn’t find - a place to go to learn the skill set of sleep. With a background in behavioral change from The Nonverbal Group, she became fascinated with chronobiology and its practical application to sleep and our overall experience of life. Knowing the difference between a life with sleep and without, she’s now dedicated her life to sharing the forgotten skill set of sleep. In the spirit of that goal, she has created the #2 sleep podcast, where she has interviewed over 200 sleep experts, written a popular weekly sleep newsletter for over six years, partnered with luxury hotels & lifestyle brands, coached the world’s top poker players, and has appeared on over 175 podcasts.

SHOW NOTES:

0:39 Welcome to the podcast!

2:16 About Mollie Eastman

3:19 Welcome her back to the show!

4:48 Are wearables helping or harming?

7:04 Placebo-Nocebo effect

11:25 Getting relief from sleep data

14:00 The ‘mindset’ undermining sleep

16:13 Acceptance & Commitment Theory (ACT) for Insomnia

18:38 Using biohacks for “First Night Effect”

25:05 Sleep disorders & at-home sleep studies

32:14 Auditing sleep data