In this episode of the B2B Marketing Podcast, Richard O’Connor, CEO of B2B Marketing, is joined by Nick Mason, CEO & Founder of Turtl, to explore why traditional, lead‑centric B2B marketing models are breaking down and what needs to replace them.
They kick off by unpacking Nick’s opening slide for B2B Ignite, drawing parallels between the 1927 Solvay Conference and today’s B2B marketing challenges, and arguing that the classic funnel and MQL mindset are no longer enough. Nick explains why marketers must focus on buying groups, intent signals, and “digital body language” to truly influence complex purchase journeys, and why a shared language between sales and marketing is critical to turning data into decisive action.
He closes by calling for a new worldview in B2B marketing - one that’s brave enough to abandon outdated paradigms in order to drive future growth. Hear more at B2B Ignite on 1 July in London, where Nick will deliver his keynote session.
Listeners to the podcast can save 20% on their ticket to B2B Ignite 2026 – simply enter the discount code PODCAST when prompted at check out.https://events.b2bmarketing.net/b2bignite
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