New Realities with Alan Steinfeld
Disclosure, Consciousness, and the Hidden Architecture of the UFO Secret
Guest, Ross Coulthart, UAP Journalist
Ross Coulthart and the Story Journalism Avoided
In this episode of New Realities, host Alan Steinfeld welcomes investigative journalist Ross Coulthart for a wide-ranging conversation about UFOs, UAP disclosure, alleged classified programs, consciousness, and the cultural resistance surrounding the subject. Coulthart explains that he originally approached UFO reporting with skepticism, expecting to disprove the phenomenon as misidentified aerospace technology, but says conversations with senior officials led him to reverse his position and conclude that the public has been misled.
David Grusch, Media Failure, and the Disclosure Inflection Point
Alan frames Coulthart’s interview with David Grusch as a major turning point in UFO history, alongside Roswell and the 2017 New York Times reporting. Coulthart resists being personally elevated but strongly criticizes mainstream journalism for what he sees as neglect, ridicule, and failure to investigate. He argues that major outlets and the White House press corps have treated the subject with nervous laughter rather than seriousness, despite Grusch’s status and testimony. The discussion also includes criticism of media “hit pieces” and the possibility that intelligence-linked narratives are shaping public perception.
Controlled Disclosure, the Legacy Program, and the National Security State
A major part of the interview centers on what Coulthart calls the legacy program, which he describes as the hidden structure behind alleged recovered craft and reverse-engineering efforts. He suggests that the 2014–2015 period may have involved an attempt at controlled disclosure, including briefings connected to Tom DeLonge and To the Stars Academy. Coulthart argues that the national security state may have tried to manage disclosure while limiting how much the public learned about recovered technology, private aerospace involvement, and alleged reverse-engineering successes.
Secrecy, Executive Power, and Alleged Crimes
Coulthart and Alan discuss whether secrecy around the phenomenon is justified by national security or whether it has become self-protecting and corrosive. Coulthart raises concerns about alleged illegal activity, including claims of deaths, private aerospace power, JSOC involvement, underground facilities, and programs hidden from Congress or presidents. He favors a truth-and-reconciliation-style process for many involved in secrecy, while distinguishing that alleged murders or capital crimes should still be investigated. The conversation repeatedly returns to constitutional accountability, presidential authority, and whether Congress has the power or will to force disclosure.
Agreements, Abductions, and the Mystery of the Phenomenon Itself
The discussion moves beyond government secrecy into the larger question of what the phenomenon may be doing and why it is here. Coulthart points to David Grusch’s reference to “agreements” as especially significant and speculates, while acknowledging uncertainty, about possible arrangements between governments and non-human intelligences. Alan brings up claims around Eisenhower, Holloman Air Force Base, alien abductions, and John Mack’s research, while Coulthart says he has become more open to abduction testimony after hearing many firsthand accounts. Both speakers treat the phenomenon as broader than hardware alone.
Consciousness, Love, Blue Beings, and a New Reality Model
One of the episode’s most important turns is toward consciousness. Coulthart says people connected to alleged legacy programs often become less focused on alien hardware and more focused on consciousness. The conversation touches on quantum physics, nonlocal awareness, psychic phenomena, remote viewing, autistic nonverbal communication research, and the possibility that matter may arise from consciousness rather than consciousness emerging from matter. Coulthart also discusses repeated accounts of “blue beings” and “downloads,” saying he received numerous independent reports from people describing similar experiences.
Jake Barber, Catastrophic Disclosure, and What Comes Next
The interview closes by returning to whistleblowers, especially Jake Barber, whom Coulthart describes as a firsthand witness connected to alleged retrieval operations. Coulthart says Barber and others have risked much by coming forward and criticizes both mainstream media and parts of the UFO community for attacking witnesses rather than following the implications of their claims. He suggests catastrophic disclosure may come from insiders trying to get ahead of the story, while Alan continues pressing for hope, public action, and a consciousness shift. The episode ends with the sense that disclosure may not only reveal hidden technology, but also force a transformation in how humanity understands reality itself.
