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What if the greatest UFO secret isn't what's flying above our heads, but what's been hiding beneath our oceans for thousands of years?
In this explosive conversation, we venture into the allegations surrounding NASA secrecy, Pentagon UFO investigations, classified crash-retrieval programmes and the possibility that recovered extraterrestrial technology is being developed into weapons rather than spacecraft.
But the story takes a much stranger turn.
From mysterious objects reportedly entering the Pacific Ocean near Malibu to the ancient Anunnaki of Sumer, the enormous stone platforms of Baalbek and the lost civilization of Atlantis, we investigate claims that humanity's earliest gods may have been visitors from somewhere beyond Earth.
Were the gods of ancient Mesopotamia extraterrestrial beings? Why do stories of beings emerging from the oceans appear in distant cultures? Could artificial intelligence reveal passages in ancient Sumerian tablets that have remained unread for thousands of years? And why do Orion, Sirius and the Pleiades repeatedly surface in theories about humanity's forgotten origins?
We also discuss Skinwalker Ranch, alleged dimensional UFO technology, ancient petroglyphs, mysterious megalithic construction, Göbekli Tepe and the possibility that something extraordinary is still operating beneath the Earth's oceans.
If even a fraction of these claims turns out to be true, the UFO mystery may be much older than anyone in Washington is prepared to admit.
An unsettling conversation about extraterrestrial visitors, ancient gods, classified technology and a human past that may be far stranger than we imagine.
