Episode 7: She Helped Jodie Foster Become Clarice Starling — But That Was Just the Beginning
What happens when a young FBI agent gets called into her boss’s office and is told she’s been selected to help with a movie?
For Mary Ann, that movie turned out to be The Silence of the Lambs.
Early in her FBI career, Mary Ann was chosen to work with the filmmakers and spent time with Jodie Foster at Quantico, helping give her a glimpse into the life, mindset and day-to-day work of a young FBI agent as Foster prepared to play Clarice Starling.
But that was just one chapter.
In this episode, Mary Ann joins Heather, Mary and Clare to look back on a remarkable FBI career that included undercover work connected to former Washington, D.C. Mayor Marion Barry, surveillance during the Monica Lewinsky investigation, VICAP, international assignments, the investigation of Americans killed by Somali pirates, and more than 20 years as a firearms instructor—including three years teaching new agents at Quantico.
She also takes us back to what it was like to be a woman in the FBI in the 1980s: skirt suits, high heels, revolvers, paper maps, pagers and eventually one computer shared by an entire squad.
But some of the most powerful moments in this conversation have nothing to do with famous cases.
Mary Ann opens up about losing fellow agents, the lasting effects of trauma, responding to the Pentagon after 9/11, the role faith played throughout her career, mentoring the next generation, knowing when it was time to retire, and learning to build an identity and a life beyond the job.
Her advice to young women entering law enforcement is simple: you’re not a “female agent.” You’re an agent. Be yourself, walk with dignity and humility, keep learning, recognize opportunities when they come—and never underestimate the importance of treating people well.
It’s an episode about Hollywood and history, but even more than that, it’s about service, resilience, relationships, gratitude and choosing to be a person of joy.
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