In this honest conversation, Lisa Harper reflects on how years of striving, shame, and religious performance kept her from fully experiencing the love and grace of God, despite spending decades in ministry. She opens up about childhood wounds, discovering intimacy with Jesus through Scripture, and the ongoing process of learning to rest in grace rather than trying to earn it through good behavior or spiritual achievement. The episode is a powerful encouragement for believers to pursue authentic community, embrace vulnerability, and lean into God’s unconditional love with the trust of a child rather than the pressure of performance.

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