We often think of learning as something that happens entirely in the mind. But according to learning scientist Mitchell Nathan, learning is fundamentally grounded in the body. In this episode of The Science of Learning, Dr. Keith Sawyer talks with Mitchell Nathan about embodied cognition—the idea that thinking and learning are deeply connected to physical experience. From simple everyday actions to advanced mathematical reasoning, our bodies play a central role in how we understand the world. Nathan explains why students can follow procedures without truly understanding them, and how meaningful learning depends on connecting abstract ideas to lived experience. He shares research on gestures, movement, and perception, showing how the body reveals—and even shapes—our thinking. The conversation also explores broader implications for education, including how we teach mathematics, how we assess learning, and how emerging technologies like AI may support—or undermine—deep understanding.

Watch the full video on YouTube: https://youtu.be/tOoQVK0K1Rc

Key topics

  • Why learning is grounded in physical experience 
  • The difference between procedural knowledge and conceptual understanding 
  • How gestures reveal hidden thinking 
  • Embodied approaches to teaching mathematics 
  • The role of material interaction in innovation and discovery 
  • What embodied cognition means for AI and digital learning 

Key takeaway

Learning is not just about performing tasks—it's about making meaning. And meaning emerges when we connect new ideas to our embodied experience in the world.

Learn more 

Watch the full video on YouTube: https://youtu.be/tOoQVK0K1Rc

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Music by license from SoundStripe:

  • "Uptown Lovers Instrumental" by AFTERNOONZ
  • "Miss Missy" by AFTERNOONZ
  • "What's the Big Deal" by Ryan Saranich

Produced and hosted by Keith Sawyer

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