In this episode, Emz and Tim break down why hill running is more than just a toughness test for triathletes. They explain how hills can improve running economy, form, cadence, and race-day durability, while also covering how to use hill reps safely if you are injury-prone.Tim also distinguishes between short hill reps, longer hill reps, and hilly long runs, with practical guidance on when each one makes sense. Emz adds race-day context from Sunny Coast and shows how these ideas show up late in a run when form starts to fall apart.

Key topics

  • Why hill running was originally used to improve form, reduce overstriding, and improve cadence
  • Why hills are not mainly a pure leg-strength tool
  • How hills improve running economy, repeated sprintability, ventilatory threshold, and lactate clearance
  • The difference between feeling fast and feeling durable late in a race
  • What “mashing out” looks like in running, including hip drop, sitting in the bucket, overstriding, and braking
  • How hills reinforce a push-based running pattern, helping runners land under the body and drive forward
  • How short hill reps, longer hill reps, and hilly long runs serve different purposes
  • How injury-prone athletes can use treadmill hill work to reduce downhill stress
  • Why a 5–6% gradient is recommended for triathletes instead of very steep inclines

Timestamps

00:00 – Sunny Coast race recap and Tim’s return to outdoor riding
 01:33 – Tim’s foot recovery and first ride outside
 02:03 – Sunny Coast conditions, draft-fest bike leg, and race-day chaos
 04:56 – Emz’s mental state on the start line and second-half run turnaround
 06:06 – Swim suit drama, plus PBs across the swim, run, and bike power
 07:47 – Why this episode is about hills and running performance
 08:21 – The real problem hills are meant to solve: better form and economy
 09:24 – What hills improve: running economy, sprintability, threshold, and lactate clearance
 10:47 – What late-race form breakdown looks like
 12:15 – Running as a push exercise, not a pull exercise
 13:15 – How hill running changes posture, foot strike, cadence, and contact time
 14:32 – How to spot mashing out in late-race photos
 15:01 – Why gym work, consistency, and intensity support run durability
 18:22 – Short hill reps: 15–30 seconds, high quality, lots of recovery
 19:20 – Longer hill reps: 2–6 minutes to build fatigue resistance
 20:44 – Long hilly runs for off-season aerobic development and trail variability
 21:11 – Using hilly long runs for race-specific pacing and fueling practice
 23:07 – Treadmill hills for injury-prone athletes
 24:08 – The ideal body position for good hill running
 25:33 – Why triathletes should aim for a 5–6% incline
 26:16 – Downhill running, knee stress, and the importance of strength work
 29:36 – Final verdict: hills do pay the bills

Notable quotes

“Running was a push exercise.”

“Hills do pay the bills.”

“Control what you can now control.”

Action items

  • Start with short hill reps of 15–30 seconds if you are new or cautious
  • Use plenty of recovery between reps, including walking back down when needed
  • Focus on posture: tall chest, lean from the ankles, strong arm drive, and high cadence
  • Use a treadmill if downhill running aggravates your body
  • Keep the incline moderate at 5–6% for triathlon-specific work
  • Use hilly long runs to rehearse race pacing and fueling if your event is undulating

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