David talks with Brendan James, co-creator of the Blowback podcast, about the surprising history behind the US-Israel relationship: how Truman’s own State Department opposed Israel’s founding and how AIPAC was born to bury a massacre.

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This is the audio version of a video from July 17, 2026. Catch the Jacobin Show on YouTube every Friday at 3 PM ET: https://www.youtube.com/@JacobinMag

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