We are joined by Daniel Bessner, co-host of the podcast American Prestige, associate professor at Washington University, and author of the new book Imperialist Realism. David and Danny talk about the origin of the term, whether we live in a post-ideological age, and whether Call of Duty and Game of Thrones represent a fundamental cynicism in US pop culture.

Check out the book: https://www.collectiveinkbooks.com/zer0-books/our-books/imperialist-realism

Read Daniel’s new Substack: https://imperialistrealism.substack.com/

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This is the audio version of a video from August 28, 2026. Catch the Jacobin Show on YouTube every Friday at 3 PM ET: https://www.youtube.com/@JacobinMag

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