This episode is an invitation to reconsider what it might mean to change and to find the ways that fit us - not through discipline or force, but through noticing what's actually there, and letting that lead.
I am joined by Frida, a sleep researcher and coach behind the Curious Sleep Lab, who brings to sleep the same sensibility she brings to life: curiosity, playfulness, and a willingness to test what's actually true rather than follow what's supposed to be.
From Love is blind watch-parties and writers’ gatherings, curiosity takes us into sleep. Not the optimized, data-tracked, rule-heavy version, but sleep as something with its own paradoxes, signals, and strangeness.
We move through what good sleep actually means and why one number rarely tells the whole story; through the in-between state of falling asleep that no one can quite catch; and the mysterious things that we experience at night (that are stranger and more common than we tend to admit). We talk about what our dreams seem to be made of, and why we so often sleep better next to someone even when the objective data disagrees.
And through all of it, Frida keeps returning to the same notion. Not “what should I be doing to sleep better”, but “how we can learn to trust our senses and listen to the signals that our body offers” - both during the day and at night.
A warm, wide-ranging conversation about sleep, rest, presence, and the surprising usefulness of not knowing the answer yet.
About Frida:
Frida Rångtell, PhD, is a sleep scientist and founder of Curious Sleep Lab - a space to explore sleep with openness and curiosity, without judgement or strict rules. She works with individuals through coaching, organizations, sports clubs, and schools. Her goal is to help others create better relationships with their sleep and to find the magic of the night.
Get in touch:
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frida-rangtell-phd/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/slumraofsweden/
Website: www.slumra.nu
This episode in headlines:
- Curiosity as a compass
- Playful living
- Lazy hosting and bringing people together
- A curious relationship to sleep
- The paradox of sleep - control vs. non-judgement
- What is good sleep?
- The signals of sleep
- Bedtime rituals to transition into sleep
- The in-between sleep state
- Sleep mysteries
- Strange things that are normal
- Sleep as an experience
- Sleeping together - the impact of social connection
- Listening to our body
- Small steps that stick
- The value of experiments and observation
- Build habits first
