In this episode, we talk with pastor and author Daniel Grothe about the importance of place, presence, and agrarian imagery in shaping a faithful approach to ministry. Together, we explore how practices like gardening, shepherding, and rootedness help us resist abstraction and rediscover the incarnational nature of Christian leadership. Daniel shares stories from his own life and church that reveal how suffering, patience, and attention to people and place can lead to deep renewal. We reflect on how God works through seasons of death and growth to bring about a harvest of joy.


Daniel Grothe’s personal website:  https://danielgrothe.com 

We mentioned the following resources:

Daniel Grothe, The Power of Place: Choosing Stability in a Rootless Age

Daniel Grothe’s Instagram: instagram.com/mrdanielgrothe 

Daniel Grothe’s Substack: https://substack.com/@danielgrothe 

Wendell Berry, Jayber Crow: A Novel

Wendell Berry, The Art of the Commonplace: The Agrarian Essays

Wendell Berry, This Day: Collected & New Sabbath Poems 

Look and See: A Portrait of Wendell Berry


Pre-order Matt’s book, The Pastor as Gardener: A Renewed Vision for Ministry, and then visit his blog to sign-up for pre-order incentives: www.mwerickson.com.   

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