Fr. Ron Rolheiser maps the spiritual journey across three stages: getting your life together, giving your life away, and — the one no one prepares you for — giving your death away. Drawing on monastic wisdom and the mystics, he shows how marriage, the monotony of daily work, and even illness, aging, and death can each become a deep spiritual practice.

In this conversation, we talk about how loneliness, restlessness, and helplessness can become gifts to ourselves and loved ones.

At seventy-eight, and having lived with stage four cancer for twelve years, Fr. Rolheiser shares half a century of wisdom about what it means to live and die well.

Fr. Ron Rolheiser is an Oblate of Mary Immaculate and the author of many books, including The Holy Longing, Sacred Fire, Bruised and Wounded, Domestic Monastery, and most recently Insane for the Light: A Spirituality for Our Wisdom Years.

https://ronrolheiser.com/en/

Chapters00:00 Get your life together, give your life away, give your death away

03:56 "Vocation isn't something you choose, it chooses you"

08:33 "Nothing has seared me like that": The neighbor who died by suicide

11:54 "Celibacy is Unnatural": Sex and Connection

15:51 Solidarity with the Poor and Lonely

18:38 Social Loneliness vs. Moral Loneliness

23:30 Restlessness is a longing for God

28:35 No Finished Symphony: Why Your Spouse Can't Be Your God

36:03 Forgiving God for not rescuing you

39:38 A Redeeming God, Not a Rescuing God: "Tell the people to learn how to wait"

44:48 Pondering: Carrying Tension Without Passing It On

53:45 The Domestic Monastery

01:02:14 Martha and Mary: Action and Contemplation

01:10:21 Student, Householder, Forest-dweller, & Holy Old Beggar

01:18:44 Twelve Years with Stage Four Cancer

01:22:17 Give up the illusion of self-sufficiency

01:30:33 Your helplessness can be a gift

01:35:21 Letting go of "I don't want to be a burden"

01:40:48 Teaching keeps you real

01:42:41 Prayer as supplication and praying without asking for consolation

Intro and outro music by  ⁨@BenBigelow3⁩ 

A note: this episode includes discussion of suicide and of assisted dying. If you are struggling, you can call or text 988 in the US to reach the Suicide & Crisis Lifeline.

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