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Today I walk with Zach Lloyd, founder and CEO of Warp. Zach is a former Principal Engineer at Google, where he led the Google Sheets team. Zach scaled his first startup, SelfMade, to 150 employees before it fell apart, and now he’s raised over $73 million for Warp from Sequoia and Google Ventures. He's betting the whole company on AI. He talks about the AI feature Warp built before Claude Code and ChatGPT existed, why not going harder at it is one of his biggest regrets as a founder, and what it's like having Marc Benioff as his cousin.

We get into:

The AI feature Warp shipped before ChatGPT even existed, and why building something like Claude Code six months early still turned into one of his biggest regrets
His first startup, SelfMade, scaling to 150 employees and multiple millions in revenue without ever finding real product market fit
Why he calls hiring "just sales," and why he'd rather hand over equity than compete on salary
Why he barely opens a spreadsheet anymore, and which AI-era tools he thinks actually survive

so much more!

Timestamps

(00:00) Trailer

(00:59) Zach Lloyd, Founder & CEO, Warp

(01:03) Grandfather Lloyd K Lloyd, San Francisco's original salesman

(04:42) Marc Benioff is his cousin

(21:33) The humility lesson from Google Sheets' original creator

(27:07) SelfMade: 150 employees, still not a real business

(34:04) Why hiring is really just sales

(39:32) Nearing a million terminal users

(41:18) Building AI before Claude Code and Codex existed

(42:52) Only going halfway in on AI