Dr. Megan Ma is Executive Founding Director of liftlab at Stanford Law School.

In our latest fireside chat, Josef Co-founder and COO Sam Flynn sits down with Megan to unpack how legal teams can move from passive tech adopters to active designers of their future workflows.

Drawing on her background working with the Canadian government on self-driving car regulation, Megan offers a compelling analogy for how we should think about AI in legal practice. Her thesis? The art lies in how and when we invite humans into the loop.

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