Lilly and Upton scatter shoot through everything they've been texting about lately. They get into "looks maxing," the trend of guys (and increasingly young girls) asking strangers online how to look more attractive, and what it means that Upton has started using ChatGPT to help with his style and his parenting reflections. From there it turns into a real conversation about sibling estrangement, and how time and life reshapes families.

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