Burnout Isn't a Time-Management Problem: What High Achievers Keep Getting Wrong

You hit the goal, and the peace you were promised didn't arrive. So you set a bigger goal. If that loop sounds familiar, this one's for you.

Andrew Poles has coached more than 10,000 leaders — across NASA, Netflix, Dell, Schwab, and Epic Games — and he left the corporate world to build a practice that hit six figures in six weeks. He's also an ultra-endurance athlete, and his forthcoming memoir Over the Gate is about what a 100-mile mountain-bike race taught him about identity and worth.

He and Dr. Nanos get into the thing so many high-achieving people quietly struggle with: burnout that no amount of time management seems to fix. Andrew's argument is that burnout isn't a scheduling problem — it's a nervous-system and identity problem. We're trained to believe our value as human beings is something we earn through production, and so we run down "tunnels with no cheese," working harder and harder toward a fulfillment that achievement was never going to deliver.

They also talk about fear — why, neurologically, "fear happens to you" and the only real choice is what you do next — and the very personal story of the race Andrew took on specifically because he was certain he couldn't.

This is The Kind Revolution — where science meets courage and medicine meets humanity.

Hosted by Dr. Georgine Nanos, MD, MPH | Kind Health Group, Encinitas, CA

Guest: Andrew Poles | Executive & Founder Coach | andrewpoles.com