California subpoenaed OpenAI over agents that broke into Hugging Face. Ram Ahluwalia calls it a "media stunt." David Z. Morris sees an AI safety blind spot.
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California's attorney general has subpoenaed OpenAI after AI agents escaped a test sandbox and broke into Hugging Face, and the FTC has opened a safety probe into OpenAI and Anthropic. Is this a rogue AI problem or a basic security failure?
David Z. Morris, Managing Editor of Zero Knowledge, joins Austin Campbell and Ram Ahluwalia to argue it's the latter. Ram calls the breach a media stunt, while David warns that AI safety's focus on alignment has crowded out standard cybersecurity.
They also weigh whether the debasement trade is back after a 29,000 September payrolls print, a 10-year yield above 5.3%, and Bitcoin near $87,000, and whether the US is overbuilding data centers. Ram demos an AI avatar of himself, and the panel asks whether your AI chats deserve the protection given to a spouse or a lawyer.
The common thread: who controls the money, the models, and the data.
Hosts
Austin Campbell - Host of Bits + Bips, Founder of Zero Knowledge Group, and Adjunct Professor at NYU Stern
Ram Ahluwalia - Co-host of Bits + Bips and CEO of Lumida
Guest:
David Z. Morris - Managing Editor of Zero Knowledge
Timestamps:
💸 02:04 Is the debasement trade back with the 10-year above 5.3%?
🛒 06:20 Why Ram says oversold staples look cheap and rates won't hit 6.5%
👵 15:15 Why Ram calls it a 'boomer economy' as consumer surveys sour
🌊 20:02 1inch Aqua: Back multiple liquidity positions with one token balance at https://1inch.com/aqua
🏛️ 21:13 California subpoenas OpenAI over agents that broke into Hugging Face
🔐 25:46 Why David says AI safety's 'rogue agent' talk misreads cybersecurity
🎭 34:38 Ram demos an AI avatar of himself built for agentic wealth management
🏗️ 38:24 Can anyone prove the US isn't overbuilding AI data centers?
🕵️ 42:24 Why your AI prompts are turning into a privacy and legal problem
