Orli Matlow sits down with clinical psychologist and academic Dr. Alice LoCicero to discuss what war does to the mind and spirit, whether experienced on the ground or through a screen. Dr. LoCicero explores whether moral injury is a medical issue or societal issue, pursuing systemic change as a course of treatment, and her work in Sri Lanka during their Civil War. They also talk The Odyssey, debating Odysseus’s DSM diagnosis. 

Theme music by This Revolution Production Collective.

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To learn more about moral injury:

Dr. Jonathan Shay in Oral History Review 

National Center for PTSD

Journal of Traumatic Stress

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