Workplace safety and construction safety management require more than just a degree on a wall. Nathan Haynes and I talk about how real life experience trumps certifications when you need to keep people safe on the road. Some stories that stand out are his journey from Alaska to the highway patrol and how he standardized safety across forty infrastructure projects. He also explains why he rejects online training for high risk tasks and creating accountability through standardized safety systems is the need of the hour.

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