In this episode I talk to comedian Zach Noe Towers, who spent the first five years of his stand-up career doing a shot before his set and a beer during it, convinced it made him calm and in tune with the room. He walks me through his whole magic-medicine-misery arc: the scared gay kid in St. Louis who found that alcohol helped, the 30th birthday where he woke up in a stranger's bed already late for a job he hated, and how he got sober despite worrying he wouldn't like other people in recovery.

Watch Zach's comedy special Twink Death on YouTube.

Follow Zach on IG @ZachNoeTowers

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