If you've ever quit drinking for three months and then decided the real fix was "just don't drive," this one's for you. Jackie Kashian is a stand-up comedian with over 25 years sober. But before sobriety stuck she developed a system: quit entirely, get bored, downgrade to beer only, promote back up to shots, then switch to wine to be classy. We talk about what finally worked and the therapist who wouldn't allow her to be funny. I really loved this episode.

You can listen to Jackie on her podcasts: The Dork Forest and the Jackie and Laurie Show. Plus watch her special Alter Kashian right on her website JackieKashian.com

You can watch this episode on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@Drunk-ishPodcast

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