Accountability and common ground shouldn’t feel like rare collectibles in American politics, but lately that’s exactly what they are. In this episode, we ask the question a lot of exhausted Americans are asking right now: what is wrong with our political parties?

We talk honestly about feeling a bit party-less, even while coming from different political leanings. Jolene is worn down by what Trump is doing and what parts of the Republican Party keep excusing, while Nicole is frustrated by the idea that the only path forward for Democrats is to become a far-left mirror image of the same chaos. The bigger point is how both sides can get trapped in a reactive loop where tribalism, outrage, and constant escalation are rewarded, and reasonable people are treated like they’re naive.

From there, the conversation shifts to what most people actually want: safety, stability, and a government that doesn’t feel like a reality show. We dig into the “exhausted majority”, the people who aren’t screaming online all day and would love to see something almost radical in 2026: bipartisan cooperation and cross-party collaboration. They also get into why Congress feels broken, why executive orders keep whiplashing the country, and why durable laws require compromise, even when it’s uncomfortable.

We also chat about the “America First” debate and why that phrase hits differently depending on who’s saying it. We then discuss why decency needs to be the way forward. Character matters, truth matters, and party loyalty shouldn’t be a free pass. If you’re tired of political chaos, culture war theatre, and leaders who perform for the loudest edges, this episode is a grounded conversation about voting (especially in primaries), rewarding adults in the room, and remembering that labels are meant to describe us, not trap us.

CHAPTER MARKERS:

00:00 Introduction

01:00 Democrats: Three Problems

02:52 Republicans Spending and Identity

03:29 Immigration and ICE Concerns

04:40 America First and Tariffs

08:39 Congress Is Broken

12:34 Language and Media Triggers

17:16 Bipartisan Budget Fixes

21:42 Extremes and Decency Debate

25:59 Collaboration Over Compromise

28:56 Vote in Primaries

33:01 Would You Rather Segment

35:09 Sponsor Plug and Wrap

RESOURCES MENTIONED:

Congress is Broken: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJmJTofEN3E

Isaac Saul’s Ted Talk: https://www.ted.com/talks/isaac_saul_3_ideas_for_communicating_across_the_political_divide?utm_campaign=tedspread&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=tedcomshare

Lalshareef: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DbHAbAgOA4u/

Brad Porteus of Bridge Grades on MO News:

https://lnkd.in/p/gQUQxSMN

Dan Goldman District 10: https://www.instagram.com/repdangoldman/?hl=en

Jolene’s Dible Dough: https://dibledough.com/

Our Website:

https://www.wevegottotalk.com/

LINKS:

On Instagram https://www.instagram.com/wevegottotalk/

On YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WeveGotToTalk

On Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/weve-got-to-talk/id1797423701

On Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0qJVgTvjciUffRmoUienx2

How to find Nicole https://nicolefonarow.com/

How to find Jolene https://dibledough.com/

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