In Episode 8 of Season 4 of the Carbon Exposure Podcast, we sit down with Mandy Rambharos, CEO of Verra — the largest carbon crediting standard in the world, with more than 4,000 projects across 100+ countries and over a billion tonnes issued.Mandy took over Verra in August 2024, at the toughest moment in the standard's history. Two years on, the transformation is substantial. Verra swung from a $19 million loss in her first year to a $1 million loss in her second. Twelve methodologies now hold ICVCM approval. Twenty-four methodologies have been digitized. Six DMRV pilots are running, with completed cycles cutting review time by 70%.Mandy's background is unusual for the role: a scientist by training, she spent decades at Eskom — Africa's largest utility, 88% coal at the time — leading its shift toward renewables. She went on to co-chair the Article 6.4 negotiations in Glasgow, helped design South Africa's $8.5 billion Just Energy Transition Partnership, and worked at EDF before taking the Verra job.In this conversation, we explore what the transformation at Verra has actually meant — not just the finances and the methodologies, but the mindset shift. Why Mandy says integrity is now "DNA, not something we strive for." Why speed and integrity are not opposing concepts. Why "capital is like a shy deer." And why the real story of Verra isn't a methodology or a registry — it's the young girl in Guatemala who got educated because of a REDD+ project.In this episode, we cover:- Mandy's journey from Eskom to UN negotiator to Verra CEO- Co-chairing Article 6.4 in Glasgow and the human effort behind the rule book- The financial turnaround: $19M loss to $1M loss in a year- Why "integrity is DNA now" and what the market's next task is- How Verra digitized 24 methodologies and cut review times by 70%- Why speed and integrity are not opposing concepts- "Capital is like a shy deer" — and what makes it stop running- Dropping the V: the unification of carbon markets- The "horses for courses" logic behind different credit use cases- Compliance recognition in Singapore, South Africa, Colombia, and Peru- Why the EU should allow international credits- The impact stories that keep Mandy in the CEO seatIf you work in carbon markets, climate finance, project development, sustainability, or policy, this is a must-listen episode.Chapters[00:00] Intro[00:37] From Eskom to UN Negotiator[05:44] Co-Chairing Article 6.4 in Glasgow[10:28] Taking Over Verra — The First Month[13:20] The Turnaround: $19M to $1M Loss[16:27] What "Integrity" Actually Means Now[19:20] Speed vs Integrity — A False Trade-off[21:27] Digitization: 24 Methodologies, DMRV Pilots[24:39] The Cyclical Interdependency of the Market[28:24] Capital Is Like a Shy Deer[30:29] Dropping the V: One Unified Carbon Market[34:03] Compliance Markets and Verra Fungibility[38:35] The EU Debate on International Credits[44:34] Impact on the Ground[50:45] The Farmer, the Family, and the Mangrove#CarbonMarkets #ClimateFinance #CarbonCredits #Verra #Article6 #ICVCM #REDD #CarbonExposurePodcast
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