In this episode of P.S I Love Me, Lynda is joined by Sally Orange MBE: mental health campaigner, endurance athlete (85 marathons and counting), and former British Army Major who spent 22 years serving in the Royal Army Medical Corps before being medically discharged due to depression and chronic anxiety. Sally shares what it was like going from “Major Sally Orange” to “just Sally” overnight, and how losing her career forced her to rebuild her identity from the ground up.
They explore the stigma that still surrounds mental health, why so many high-achieving people are brilliant at supporting others, but struggle to receive help themselves, and why speaking up is one of the bravest things you can do. Sally also explains how movement became her lifeline from a place of darkness, and how running marathons dressed as fruit became a powerful conversation starter that made mental health more visible, accessible, and less scary to talk about.
The conversation also covers Sally’s experience of breast cancer, the strange invisibility of illness, and what resilience actually looks like when life hits hard. If you’ve ever felt like you’re holding it together on the outside while falling apart on the inside, this one is for you.
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If you are struggling with your mental health, please explore the following resources:
Samaritans: https://www.samaritans.org/
Stay Safe: https://stayingsafe.net/
Mind: https://www.mind.org.uk/need-urgent-help/what-can-i-do-to-help-myself-cope/
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You Will Hear:
• What it’s like losing your identity overnight after leaving the military
• Depression and chronic anxiety vs the common PTSD assumption
• Why we wait for crisis with mental health (the “learn to swim in a storm” analogy)
• “Movement is medicine”: starting with tiny steps and building momentum
• Resilience without toxic positivity: honesty, recovery, and bouncing back
• Cancer and mental illness as “invisible” experiences, and why appearances deceive
• Suicide prevention, asking for help, and why speaking up matters
Key Moments:
00:00 – Coming Up
01:10 – Lynda introduces Sally Orange MBE and her story
03:09 – 22 years in the Army, discharge, and the PTSD misconception
04:08 – The Army as identity, purpose, and community: “Major Sally Orange to Sally”
05:28 – Why hiding struggles blocks support: “how can people help if they don’t know?”
07:35 – “You wouldn’t learn to swim in a storm”: build tools before crisis hits
10:10 – How marathons began: movement, tiny steps, then big goals
11:14 – Fruit costumes, world records, and why humour opens real conversations
18:49 – Cancer and mental illness are often invisible: don’t judge the cover
19:44 – Running an ultramarathon through chemo dressed as a giant boob
24:11 – MID-ROLL AD: The Evolved Woman programme
30:02 – “I’d never speak to others the way my head speaks to me”
35:17 – Cancer as an “Ironman”: break it down into stages, not a whole year
42:01 – “Time of my life”: removing pressure from running and performance
47:43 – Gratitude journalling and rewiring perspective without toxic positivity
52:11 – Where to find Sally online
52:34 – Lynda’s closing reminder: it’s okay not to be okay
