In this episode of P.S I Love Me, Lynda is joined by Betsy Pake, certified master coach, speaker, and founder of The Navigate Method, who has spent over 12 years helping women navigate one of life's most difficult crossroads: whether to stay in a marriage or walk away. But today, they flip the script. Instead of asking "should I go?", Betsy is here to help women ask the far more powerful question before they ever get there — should I say yes in the first place?
They explore why so many high-achieving women end up exhausted and self-abandoned in relationships, giving endlessly to everyone around them while quietly losing touch with what they actually want. From navigating hard conversations about money and family, to whether he actually likes you (not just what you do for him), this episode gives women a clear-eyed framework for choosing a partner wisely.
They also get honest about the guilt of leaving, the hope that keeps women tethered, and how to redirect that hope back to yourself. If you're dating, thinking about committing, or simply determined never to settle again, this one is for you.
In this episode, you'll discover:
Why self-worth shows up in sneaky ways and how "being good" quietly leads to self-abandonment
The difference between knowing your worth intellectually and actually feeling it in your body
Why calibrating on potential instead of action keeps women stuck in the wrong relationships
The 5 things Betsy says every woman should assess before committing to a life partner
How to redirect hope away from him, and back to yourself
What intentional living really looks like day to day, and why gratitude is more than a journal exercise
The one question to ask yourself if you're wondering whether someone is truly the one
Key Moments:
- 01:03 – Lynda introduces Betsy Pake and the story behind The Navigate Method
- 01:42 – How Betsy's work grew from her own "purgatory of decision"
- 03:17 – "It's not the relationship that has to end — it's the way the relationship is being done"
- 04:21 – How self-abandonment hides behind wanting to be good
- 06:07 – High-achieving women who give everything and don't know how to receive
- 08:21 – When your nervous system doesn't know you have inherent value
- 09:18 – Burnout, disconnection, and ignoring the body's signals for too long
- 12:31 – What women say on that first call: "I'm completely depleted"
- 14:26 – Lynda's own story: guilt, leaving a good man, and finally choosing herself
- 15:17 – "The bond isn't until you're broken": reframing what commitment really means
- 27:12 – Betsy's 5 things every woman must know before she walks down the aisle
- 34:43 – The viral turkey trot video and what it reveals about a man's loyalty
- 36:04 – What women say at the end of Betsy's programme: "empowered"
- 37:28 – Redirecting hope: away from him, back to you
- 39:52 – Calibrate for action: what to do when he promises to change
- 45:34 – Betsy's daily shower prayer and the "good things" Instagram practice
- 51:17 – Betsy's closing question: "If nobody got hurt and money didn't matter, what would I choose?"
To learn more about Lynda and her transformative coaching check out: https://www.lyndawilliamscoaching.com/home
Connect with Lynda on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lyndawilliamscoach/
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Join her Evolved Woman Program: https://www.lyndawilliamscoaching.com/lwc-evolved-woman-program
Check out Betsy via her website: https://betsypake.com/
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This episode of PS: I Love Me was produced by Heart Centered Podcasting.
