What If Everything Works Out? How to Turn Up your Inside Volume | Dushka Zapata + Dan Roam - The Future Is How | Lyssna här

Dushka Zapata has written 17 books and is one of the most-read writers on Quora. Dan Roam wrote "The Back of the Napkin" and has taught Google, Microsoft, and the U.S. Navy how to think with pictures. For the first time on this show, I have two guests at the same mic - recorded inside my geodesic dome, words on one side, pictures on the other. Together we explore why imagining your future too clearly is actually a form of anxiety, why the fear of drawing is really the fear of your own future, and the practice that helped my 10-year-old draw a horse in under two minutes. Dan also shares a brand-new idea, born live in this conversation: the Palace of the Present Moment. If you've ever felt overwhelmed by the future, this one is for you.

Chapters

00:00 - First time in the dome, first time with two guests

03:15 - How Dan helped my daughter Josefina draw a horse in under two minutes

05:42 - The fear of drawing is the fear of your own future

11:27 - Dushka's antidote to overwhelm (and the Einstein quote you'll steal)

14:00 - Why half of your brain is built for visual thinking

17:17 - Generative AI and why you should draw first, prompt later

20:00 - "Claude is mad at me" - why AI is just a mirror

24:00 - Patience as a minor form of despair disguised as a virtue

26:48 - The annoying bell and the power of the pause

30:00 - The Zen master, the trash over the fence, and a better way to react

32:11 - Drawing your future self