Rob Koll is one of the winningest coaches in college wrestling history, and he lived inside the Foxcatcher mansion with John du Pont before the murder that shocked the sport. In this one, he told me things I've never heard him say publicly: the gunshots in the walls, why he finally left, and how he built a dynasty at a school that gave zero scholarships. This might be the most open conversation I've ever had on the show. 

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Timestamps

00:00 - Intro of Show

01:13 - Welcome and Rob Koll's record

02:30 - Wrestling royalty and a father's war

06:01 - Leading by example and 30 Acts of Kindness

07:05 - Why the best wrestlers become coaches

09:25 - Winning at Cornell with no scholarships

11:28 - Getting recruits into the Ivy League

14:00 - Inheriting the program from Jack Spates

16:29 - Realizing fundraising was everything

19:56 - The $5,000 check that changed his approach

21:55 - Growing up in his father's shadow

23:56 - Why he turned down Penn State

26:08 - Where his coaching style came from

27:29 - Coaching his own sons

30:27 - Why preparation wins most of the time

32:35 - Recruiting great kids vs good kids

36:03 - Green flags and red flags in recruiting

39:39 - Cockiness as a mask for insecurity

40:29 - Learning to read in third grade

43:46 - The 10 percent pay cut on day one

47:08 - Recruiting parents, not kids

50:11 - Stanford, NIL and the transfer portal

55:45 - Is Penn State's dominance good for the sport

58:26 - Why he left Stanford

1:00:05 - Never worked a day in his life

1:04:00 - What he wants to be remembered for

1:05:53 - Over-medicating young athletes

1:08:37 - Going 5-1 at Worlds and placing fifth

1:11:22 - Inside Foxcatcher with John du Pont

1:19:22 - Surrounding yourself with the right people

1:24:44 - Troy Nickerson and his dying father

1:32:00 - Where to follow UNC wrestling

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