Beijing is moving to restrict how far its own open-source AI models can travel abroad, just as Washington moves to restrict how far they can travel in.

  • Same standoff, squeezing from opposite ends of the pipeline.

Quick note: This episode is the first of a new, more frequent style of podcast we're rolling out – shorter, faster-turnaround conversations to react to the news as it breaks, alongside our regular weekly deep dives.

  • Look for more of these in your feed soon.

On this episode, Andrew Polk sits down with Kendra Schaefer (Head of Tech Policy Research) to unpack:

  • Why MOFCOM's reported talks with Alibaba, ByteDance, and Zhipu on export controls could reshape how Chinese model weights get released
  • The three priorities Beijing is trying to balance: model competitiveness, security risk, and controllability
  • How Kimi K3's release has intensified US anxiety, with Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent floating possible sanctions over model distillation
  • What Xi's WAIC speech signals about China staying committed to open source while tightening the regulatory leash

Give it a listen and let us know what you think.

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