Cara Cordone thought she'd found her people. Then she tried to fix what was broken — and discovered the damage was by design.
In Part 1 of this two-part conversation, Anne sits down with Cara Cordone — coach, advocate, and host of Fool's Gold: Discernment in the Age of Grift — to trace how a search for healing and connection led Cara deep inside ISTA (the International School of Temple Arts), and what she uncovered when she started asking hard questions.
This is a conversation about what it really means to be transformed — and what happens when the high wears off.
In this episode you'll hear:
How a COVID-era retreat became a years-long journey into a high-control organisation
What emotional release techniques actually do to the nervous system — and why the research doesn't support them
Why "you're responsible for your experience" can be one of the most dangerous ideas in personal development
The moment Cara encountered DARVO — and recognised it had already happened to her
How a Facebook group meant to build bridges revealed a decade of unaddressed harm
What ISTA, Landmark, and high-control groups share — and why internal reform almost never works
The one question that cuts through any narrative: Who benefits?
Cara brings honesty, hard-won insight, and genuine generosity of spirit to one of the most layered conversations we've had on this show. This is not a takedown. It's a reckoning.
WHO THIS EPISODE IS FOR If you've ever left a programme, group, or community feeling like you were the problem — this conversation is for you. It's also essential listening for coaches, therapists, HR professionals, and anyone working with people navigating recovery from high-control environments.
RESOURCES & LINKS
Check out Cara Cordone's Podcast — Fool's Gold: Discernment in the Age of Grift
Read Anne's Book — Is This A Cult? Confronting the Line Between Exploitation and Transformation → https://isthisacultbook.com/
If you or someone you know is navigating recovery after a high-control group, relationship or organisation: Healthy Healing and Recovery Group with Rachel Bernstein → https://ilumn8.life/op/lgat-recovery-group/
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